LSA Tiger Dev - May 4, 2005

Attendees:
Dave Pugh
Todd Austin
Mark Montague
Dave Glaser
Karen Pachla
Jeremy Hallum
Scott Lemm
Gretchen Kopmanis
Tim Rolston
Jeff Kopmanis
Jan Stewart

Dave's call with Apple
- several engineers from Apple, Patrick MacNeil
- will address Kerberos problems and probably LDAP issues, as well
- after MacSIG today

Dave notes that WWDC schedule with times is now available, printed in Tiger iCal
(it's in PDF format)

Todd showed a demo of the new Tiger LSA background
Dave thinks it should have softer circle around the UM seal

Dave will explore adding licensing info to login window

Jeff will package NeoOffice/J and emacs

Should we continue doing any more packages on Panther?
- for now, yes

Tiger tested with current packages:  See email from Gretchen from 4-15-2005 (document will be posted with meeting minutes)
Date: April 15, 2005 3:02:38 PM EDT
Subject: LSA packages tested on TIGER
Things that don't work yet:
- Matlab
- OpenAFS
- LDAP
- Kerberized Console
- Kerberized PAM? (UNTESTED)
- our KeyAccess pkg
- SPSS
- Fireworks (only works as admin)
- Flash (only works as admin)
- Adobe Reader 6
External Sources report problems with:
- Photoshop
- Virtual PC
- Cisco VPN client
- Norton A/V
- Virex
- Bittorent

Dave reports that 8A428 (GM Tiger, Client and Server) is now on the Tiger dev site for download

Jeremy suggested including Desktop manager in the build
- we can include anything, but if you do, you must support it
- Mark offers to assist Jeremy with support, should we choose to include it when it's ready

Dave reports that AFP server in Tiger server dows not work with Kerberos

Scott reports that existing maintenance agreements on Server run through December, at which time departments will be responsible for renewing their own contracts, as needed

DarwinPorts vs. Fink
- DP now at 1.0, available in binary format
- We'll pkg DarwinPorts, not too many reasons to use Fink over DP
- General principle established (confirmed) that we'll offer one example for each functionality for third-party non-licensed apps and let users add more as they see fit

Jeremy will be rebuilding all of the Jaguar (eek!) packages for Tiger.  These are the following packages currently included.  Is there anything else? Anything we want to get rid of?  Anything already included in Tiger?

bzip2
emacs explore this elisp stuff.  
fileutils
ghostscript
gnupg
hfstar - Shouldn't need - need to test
lynx
ncftp
screen--a part of the OS in Panther...prob in Tiger.
xemacs
g77 and gsl? (make sure it's not already included in Xcode2)
wget

Note that Nano has replaced Pico on Tiger - for licensing reasons, same command set

Local SoftwareUpdate server?
- reasons:  bandwidth conservation and deciding locally what updates our users receive
- note that this will be for Apple products only, holds local cache
- Dave will configure, probably load balancing across the SNI servers
- decision criterion could be as simple as 'does Apple pull it back within a couple of days?'
- document internally (or make package) to re-direct to Apple servers for test machines

Gretchen reports that WWDC tickets in work

OUTSTANDING TO-DOs:
Make Kerberized-Console default in install (dpugh)
Make KFM-PAM by default (dpugh)
Configure Spotlight to stay out of AFS
Make Tiger NBI (dpugh)
Update to Xcode2
Unix pkgs (Jeremy)
Software Update Server & plist & removal pkg (dpugh)

OUTSTANDING TIGER BUGS THAT ARE SHOWSTOPPERS:
LDAP
Kerberized Console
AFP on server

WWDC Issues to bring up:
Why worry about the footprint of pico? (Mark)
Tablet laptops (Sue)
Backup (from .Mac) for all machines (Scott)
Copy from old machine to new machine on first launch ability for all machines (Scott)

Tasks/Topics for next time:
Update to Tiger, if not impacted by showstoppers or incompatibilities
lsa-dev-osx membership audit
note default settings you'd like to see in Tiger
note SNI changes you'd like to see going forward
Think of WWDC topics to address